Instead of commenting to each comment on my last post, I’m going to write another post that is pretty much one big response to all the comments. It might seem a little disjointed, so please bear with me.
My last post didn’t give an accurate portrayal of my financial history. I didn’t purposefully omit anything, but I realized reading the comments that it I failed to convey the reality of the situation. It’s true that I haven’t ever paid interest on my credit cards, but I have carried debt a few times, always rolling balances onto 0% APR cards and hustling to pay them off before the interest started accumulating. I did that when I traveled with my sister in Europe in my early 20s, and when I was on maternity leave both times. There have been other times I couldn’t pay my credit card off completely and had move money around or get help from my husband to cover my payments. My parents also gave me $10,000 in an investment account and I’ve dipped into that on occasion. My spending has always been irresponsible and I’ve never kept track of it, let alone monitored it carefully. I’m sure you all remember that I was actually lying to my husband about my spending habits for a time, when they got really excessive. Please let me assure you that I really do need to overhaul my attitude about money. It really is a serious problem that I need to get a handle on, and that is not me being overly self-critical. It’s just a fact.
And yes, it has been nice to have my parents help me so much. I’m sure I don’t realize how nice it’s been, because I have not walked in the shoes of those who had to hustle for financial security. It’s also the reason I haven’t been forced to figure this shit out until now; I’ve spent two decades walking the path of financial irresponsibility and now the ruts of overspending are so deep it will be really hard to get my wagon off this track. I’m not saying I have it harder than people who have not received financial support from family, I’m just saying that it has hindered as well as helped me.
The purpose of posting my spending online was first and foremost to hold myself accountable in my only-buying-consumables spending freeze. There were no other immediate goals intended in posting my spending this summer. Of course being aware of where I DO spend my money is a valuable exercise and I want to add the goal of figuring out where my money is going so that I can eventually make more informed and intentional decisions about how I spend my money. This will help me make realistic financial goals moving forward; by the end of the summer I want to have a budget in place that includes a manageable savings plan. If I am going to be setting aside money for savings, I will need to change how I spend, and I’m hoping these eight weeks of publicly tracking my spending will help me to plan and carry out those changes.
One thing I haven’t talked much about is the not insignificant matter of my husband. I am, of course, only one half of a couple. We both make money. We both spend money. We both need to be on board with this budgeting stuff right? I believe we do, but All Your Worth cautions not to come down to hard on your other half when you start overhauling your budget. I have tried to bring up my concerns about our financial situation a few times but my husband has expressed interest in pursuing the topic. It’s not that he doesn’t care, I think it just overwhelms him and he never feels like there is a good time to really hash it out (mostly he’s just too tired at the end of the day to participate in any meaningful conversation, let alone one as charged as how we spend our money). This definitely complicates things, but I’m not letting it get in the way of me making the changes that I need to make.
My husband and I have separate bank accounts. There is a very good reason for this: we are lazy. Well, that isn’t the whole truth, but it’s the easy truth. The honest truth is that for a long time I didn’t want our accounts joined because I didn’t want my husband to see my spending. (Remember that part about how I was hiding it, when it got really bad?) And since I’m the one who GETS THINGS DONE, the merging of our bank accounts just never happened. He has his accounts. I have mine. He pays certain bills and I pay others. We kind of sat down at certain points and figured some things out, while other things just happened without us saying much about it. Clearly it’s not the best way to go about things. Again, it’s more decision via indecision than any specific choice to do it this way.
The final nail in the coffin of merging our accounts is we can’t figure out where to put our money together. I don’t love my bank. He doesn’t love his. We’re too used to the mobile conveniences of our massive institutions to put our money in a credit union, where we want actually want it to be. So I bring up putting our money together. We realize we’re not sure how to proceed. The conversation ends and nothing happens. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Times a thousand.
We have talked about taking a small step in the right direction and I plan on opening a savings account at the credit union that opened an office in our neighborhood. When we figure out how much we’ll be putting into savings every month, that money (from both of us) will go there. We will both contribute to it. It will become our six-month emergency fund, the place we go to get money when something big needs fixing with the house, etc. We do plan on merging our finances completely some day soon, but without my enthusiasm driving it, it simply won’t happen.
The separate accounts, and the fact that we pay for things separately, also make tracking our spending habits harder. Luckily my husband doesn’t buy any THINGS with his money. He NEVER spends his money on stuff. But he does like to spend his money on food, and drinks, and going out and having a good time. And he usually is the one who puts the card down when we do those things together. So it’s going to take longer for those habits of ours to change, because right now he’s just not that interested in making sacrifices when it comes to that stuff. He does want to start contributing to his retirement (on top of his pension contribution) and putting something away for savings and he is aware enough of his balances not to spend more than he has left over, so I’m hoping that alone will help him make the necessary changes in our “eat/drink/be merry” budget. I will be trying hard to track what he spends on that stuff, at least when we’re together, so I can be more aware of how we can reign it in, but I will not be posting that spending because it’s not mine and I don’t feel comfortable putting his choices out there. (I’m sure he wouldn’t appreciate it either.)
{Oh, and to answer the question about what my husband does, he was a big firm attorney for two years, right out of law school, and used most of that crazy money to pay down his high interest student debt. Then he worked for a non-profit for five years (making significantly less than I did as a teacher) and now he works for the city (making a little bit more than I do as a teacher, but with incredible health benefits.}
So this post got really long again, and I apologize. I hope that clears up any confusion from the last post and answered any questions people posed. I will be responding to comments on this post. Thank you for sticking with me while I flog the topic of finances to death. These are not changes that come easily to me. I’m taking baby steps, and baby steps take a lot of time. I promise my next few posts will be about something more fun, or at least less financial.
Do you and your partner have joint or separate accounts? How did you come to that decision? Does your partner share your financial aspirations? If not, how do you deal with that?
(Any tips on us joining our finances are welcome. Maybe hearing your suggestions will light a fire under my ass about it.)